Sunday, March 7, 2010

Pre-inflammatory?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC108207/







Lipoproteins can bind lipopolysaccharide (LPS) and decrease LPS-stimulated
cytokine production. Lipoprotein(a) [Lp(a)] was as potent as low-density
lipoproteins (LDL) in inhibiting LPS-stimulated tumor necrosis factor synthesis
by human mononuclear cells. The kinetics of LPS inhibition by Lp(a) was similar
to that of LDL. This suggests that circulating Lp(a) may be an important factor
determining the amplitude of the response to LPS in humans.

The systemic toxicity of gram-negative sepsis is largely due to endotoxin,
a lipopolysaccharide (LPS) component of the outer membrane of gram-negative
bacteria. LPS stimulates the production of proinflammatory cytokines such as
tumor necrosis factor alpha (TNF) and interleukin-1, which in turn may induce
disseminated intravascular coagulation, hypotension, and renal, hepatic, and
cerebral damage




These guys were looking for a reason for lp(a) to be in the human body besides the obvious benefit of increased risk of heart disease. Peter at Hyperlipid makes a good argument for lp(a) being useful as sort of an emergency artery-repair patch. So maybe it's an anti-bacterial, anti-fungal artery-repair patch. The anti-endotoxin effect is attributed specifically to the lipoprotein fraction; the body might fail to clear small, dense ldl from circulation in a high carb, low fat diet in order to preserve the ability to counter endotoxin.

According to wikipedia, blocking tnf can increase danger of opportunistic infection from already present fungus, causing diseases like tuberculosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8662983


Tumor necrosis factor (TNF)-alpha inhibits insulin signaling through
stimulation of the p55 TNF receptor and activation of sphingomyelinase.

Tumor necrosis factor (TNF)-alpha plays a central role in the state of insulin resistance associated with obesity. It has previously been shown that one important mechanism by which TNF-alpha interferes with insulin signaling is through the serine phosphorylation of insulin receptor substrate-1 (IRS-1), which can then function as an inhibitor of the tyrosine kinase activity of the insulin receptor (IR). However, the receptors and the signaling pathway used by TNF-alpha that mediate the inhibition of IR activity are unknown. We show here that human TNF-alpha, which binds only to the murine p55 TNF receptor (TNFR), is as effective at inhibiting insulin-dependent tyrosine phosphorylation of IR and IRS-1 in adipocytes and myeloid 32D cells as murine TNF-alpha, which binds to both p55 TNFR and p75 TNFR. Likewise, antibodies that are specific agonists for p55 TNFR or p75 TNFR demonstrate that stimulation of p55 TNFR is sufficient to inhibit insulin signaling, though a small effect can also be seen with antibodies to p75 TNFR. Exogenous sphingomyelinase and ceramides, known to be formed by activation of p55 TNFR, inhibit IR and IRS-1 tyrosine phosphorylation and convert IRS-1 into an inhibitor of IR tyrosine kinase in vitro. Myeloid 32D cells expressing IR and IRS-1 are sensitive to this inhibition, but cells expressing IR and IRS-2 are resistant, pointing to an important difference in the biological function between IRS-1 and IRS-2. These data strongly suggest that TNF-alpha inhibits insulin signaling via stimulation of p55 TNFR and sphingomyelinase activity, which results in the production of an inhibitory form of IRS-1.



TNF seems to impair wound healing. A decrease in insulin signalling fits into that.

http://autoimmunenews.blogspot.com/2009/09/broken-bones-blame-it-on-autoimmune.html


Let's see; impairs wound healing. Fights infection (endotoxin)... doesn't sound like TNF is trying to hurt us. When does rheumatoid arthritis seem like a good idea? When the alternative is tuberculosis? Or some other infection?

Anti-inflammatory might not be the right word. Blocking TNF does that. Pre-inflammatory? Before TNF becomes necessary. Glycine, taurine, vitamin d, fish oil.

And pay attention to this guy;

http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/2009/03/enteroviruses-autoimmunity-diabetes.html

Wednesday, March 3, 2010

Glutamic acid and bones

http://www.ismni.org/jmni/pdf/32/09SKERRY.pdf

T. M. Skerry

Abstract
Communication between the cells in bone underlies the way that the tissue functions physiologically, and in nearly all pathologies, the pathogenesis of skeletal diseases. The number of molecules involved in intercellular signalling in bone grows constantly and it is perhaps unsurprising that the list includes many with functions in other tissues. In recent years, evidence has accumulated to show that molecules involved in neurotransmission have paracrine roles in the skeleton. The focus of this review is the excitatory amino acid glutamate and its role in regulating bone formation and resorption. Specifically, this article will concentrate on the functional role of the system, and the reasons why mechanisms like synaptic transmission are relevant to what might appear to be a slow responding tissue, as the sites of expression of glutamate signalling components in bone have been reviewed already. While there is strong evidence for a regulatory role for glutamate in osteoblast and osteoclast differentiation and function in vitro, in vivo data is less advanced.
Preliminary data from in vivo systems does however suggest that glutamate has a
physiological function in the skeleton.



The whole leptin/brain-derived serotonin, umami/sweet, glutamic acid/carbohydrate appetite see-saw seems to be pretty important. Would glutamic acid intake--satisfying the "protein" appetite induced by excess leptin or brain serotonin blockade-- prevent the deleterious effects of these treatments on bone?

And does all this relate to the bone-ification of arteries?
Is saturated fat (beef tallow) a leptin analog?

Check it out;



The effect of dietary fat on diet selection may involve central
serotonin.
Mullen BJ, Martin RJ.
Department of Foods and Nutrition, University of
Georgia, Athens 30602.
Rats consuming a diet of 34% tallow select more protein and less carbohydrate than rats fed either 5% corn oil or tallow or 34% corn oil (25). To examine potential mechanism(s) of this phenomenon, we fed rats diets containing either tallow or corn oil at levels of 5 or 34% for 2 days. Sera were analyzed, and rats fed 34% tallow had higher serum insulin compared with those fed 34% corn oil. In a second experiment, rats were fed either 34% corn oil or tallow for 2 days. Brain tissues were analyzed, and rats fed 34% tallow had elevated serotonin in the raphe area compared with those fed 34% corn oil. In a third experiment, rats were fed either 34% corn oil or tallow for 2 days and then given dl-fenfluramine before diet selection. Fenfluramine depressed food intake to a greater degree in rats fed 34% tallow compared with those fed corn oil. These findings suggest that the diet selection behavior observed in tallow-fed rats may be mediated by a central serotonin system.





http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2600660?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_SingleItemSupl.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=4&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed


I'm kind of dorky when it comes to re-naming links. Anyways, that second link is a full study showing the effect of tallow vs corn oil on food selection. Tallow fed rats choose more protein, less carbs-- which is similar to the effects of centrally-administered leptin.


That first study mentioned fenfluramine (the fen from phen-fen.)

Look what wikipedia says;



The drug was withdrawn from the U.S. market in 1997 after reports of heart
valve
disease,[2][3] and pulmonary hypertension, including a condition known as cardiac fibrosis. After the US withdrawal of fenfluramine, it was also withdrawn from other markets around the world.
The distinctive valvular abnormality seen with fenfluramine is a thickening of the leaflet and chordae tendineae. One mechanisms used to explain this phenomenon involves heart valve serotonin receptors, which are thought to help regulate growth. Since fenfluramine and its active metabolite norfenfluramine stimulate serotonin receptors 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) this may have led to the valvular abnormalities found in patients using fenfluramine. In particular norfenfluramine is a potent agonist of 5-HT2B receptors, which are plentiful in human cardiac valves. The suggested mechanism by which fenfluramine causes damage is through over or inappropriate stimulation of these receptors leading to inappropriate valve cell division. Supporting this idea, is the fact that this valve abnormality has also occurred in patients using other drugs that act on 5-HT2B receptors. [4].



I really haven't done enough homework to say this; but I'm gonna say it anyways. Heart disease is a disease of energy homeostasis; largely mediated by serotonin. Overgrowth, thickening of the arteries perhaps caused by overactive serotonin receptors; or undergrowth, leaky artery disease not all that far removed from leaky gut disease, since the gut is also dependent on serotonin for the mediation of its upkeep.

Edit; make that involving serotonin. Then toss that whole last paragraph over your shoulder.

Back on topic. Or as close as I'm capable.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11540865


d-Fenfluramine selectively suppresses carbohydrate snacking by obese
subjects.
Wurtman J, Wurtman R, Mark S, Tsay R, Gilbert W, Growdon J.
Department of Applied Biology, MIT, Cambridge, MA
02139, USA.
Twenty obese inpatients who claimed to crave carbohydrate-rich foods were given d-fenfluramine (15 mg p.o., twice daily) or its placebo, double-blind, for two consecutive eight-day periods. Food choices were measured on treatment days 1, 7, and 8 by giving the subjects access to unlimited portions of six isocaloric meal foods (three high in carbohydrate and three high in protein) and of 10 isocaloric snack foods (five high in protein and five high in carbohydrate) available 24 hours a day in a computerized vending machine. d-fenfluramine reduced mealtime calorie intake by only 16% (from 1940 +/- 94 to 1630 +/- 92; p < .001), mealtime carbohydrate by 22%, and had no significant effect on mealtime protein consumption; in contrast, snack calorie intake was reduced by 41% (from 707 +/- 97 to 414 +/- 46; p < .001), and snack carbohydrate intake by the same proportion. The mean number of carbohydrate-rich snacks consumed per day decreased from 5.8 +/- 0.8 to 3.4 +/-0.4 (p < .01), while that of protein-rich snacks failed to change signficantly (i.e., from 0.7 +/- 0.2 to 0.5 +/- 0.2).



Tallow-fed rats already had blunted carbohydrate appetites. Fenfluramine "satisfies" carbohydrate appetite, perhaps by sending the false signal that carbohydrates have already been eaten; so fenfluramine ends up more effective for tallow fed than for corn oil fed rats. A false signal of nourishment might not be a good idea.
A fellow commenter (Westie) on Peter's Hyperlipid Blog told me this;


Glutamine decreases the amount of glucose carbon directed to Krebs cycle. That
is connected to increased UCP-2 expression which is also related to insulin
resistance.

This single sentence explains quite a bit of the stuff I've been reading about leptin. I might as well start here, it's as good as anywhere;
http://cmbi.bjmu.edu.cn/news/report/2009/pdf/med09_09_1.pdf

Leptin inhibition of bone mass accrual requires the integrity of specific hypothalamic neurons but not expression of its receptor on these neurons. The same is true for its regulation of appetite and energy expenditure. This suggests that leptin acts elsewhere in the brain to achieve these three functions.We show here that brainstem-derived serotonin (BDS) favors bone mass accrual following its binding to Htr2creceptors on ventromedial hypothalamic neurons and appetite via Htr1a and 2b receptors on arcuate neurons. Leptin inhibits these functions and increases energy expenditure because it reduces serotonin synthesis and firing of serotonergic neurons. Accordingly,while abrogating BDS synthesis corrects the bone, appetite and energy expenditure phenotypes caused by leptin deficiency,inactivation of the leptin receptor in serotonergic neurons recapitulatesthem fully. This study modifies the map of leptin signaling in the brain andidentifies a molecular basis for the common regulation of bone and energymetabolisms.


The authors mention later on that leptin shows up with skeletons, so it makes sense that it is involved in proper bone mass maintenance. So leptin has a very close relationship to serotonin. I'm going to skip over serotonin for now, mostly because while I know that serotonin is involved in appetite and metabolism etc., all over the body, that's about all I know, and I came here to talk about leptin.
Okay, into the meat of the thing.
http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/145/2/839
Leptin decreases the preference for the taste of sweet.
http://ajpregu.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/293/4/R1468

Leptin reduces body fat selectively, sparing body protein. Accordingly, during chronic leptin administration, food intake is suppressed, and body weight is
reduced until body fat is depleted. Body weight then stabilizes at this fat-depleted nadir, while food intake returns to normal caloric levels, presumably in defense of energy and nutritional homeostasis. This model of leptin treatment offers the opportunity to examine controls of food intake that are independent of leptin's actions, and provides a window for examining the nature of feeding controls in a "fatless" animal. Here we evaluate macronutrient selection during this fat-depleted phase of leptin treatment. Adult, male Sprague-Dawley rats were maintained on standard pelleted rodent chow and given daily lateral ventricular injections of leptin or vehicle solution until body weight reached the nadir point and food intake returned to normal levels. Injections were then continued for 8 days, during which rats self-selected their daily diet from separate sources of carbohydrate, protein, and fat. Macronutrient choice differed profoundly in leptin and control rats. Leptin rats exhibited a dramatic increase in protein intake, whereas controls exhibited a strong carbohydrate preference. Fat intake did not differ between groups at any time during the 8-day test. Despite these dramatic differences in macronutrient selection, total daily caloric intake did not differ between groups except on day 2. Thus controls of food intake related to ongoing metabolic and nutritional requirements may supersede the negative feedback signals related to body fat stores.

This study has sort of confused me for a while; leptin decreases the appetite for carbohydrate. But, isn't the alternate fuel fat, not protein? But if you throw in this;

Glutamine decreases the amount of glucose carbon directed to Krebs cycle

Then gosh, glutamine becomes awfully important to the switch between glucose and fat as the major energy source.
We taste sweet, sour, bitter, salty, umami. Umami is the taste set off by mono-sodium glutamate. We taste glutamine, glutamic acid, etc. Out of all the proteins we have a particular sense of taste for that one protein.
Yeah, I know. MSG makes you fat, right? But... l glutamine is often recommended to fight carbohydrated addiction. Also alcohol addiction.
And there's this; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18559279?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_SingleItemSupl.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=2&log$=relatedarticles&logdbfrom=pubmed

Monosodium l-glutamate (MSG), an umami taste substance, may be a key molecule coupled to a food intake signaling pathway, possibly mediated through a specific l-glutamate (GLU) sensing mechanism in the gastrointestinal tract. Here we investigated the effect of the spontaneous ingestion of a 1% MSG solution and water on food intake and body weight in male Sprague-Dawley rats fed diets of varying caloric density, fat and carbohydrate contents. Fat mass and lean mass in the abdomen, blood pressure, and several blood metabolic markers were also measured. Rats given free access to MSG and water showed a high preference (93-97%) for the MSG solution, regardless of the diet they consumed. Rats ingesting MSG had a significantly smaller weight gain, reduced abdominal fat mass, and lower plasma leptin levels, compared to rats ingesting water alone. Naso-anal length, lean mass, food and energy intakes, blood pressure, blood glucose, and plasma levels of insulin, triglyceride, total cholesterol, albumin, and GLU were not influenced by the ingestion of the MSG solution. These same effects were observed in a study of adult rats. Together, these results suggest that MSG ingestion reduces weight gain, body fat mass, and plasma leptin levels. Moreover, these changes are likely to be mediated by increased energy expenditure, not reduced energy intake or delayed development. Conceivably, these effects of MSG might be mediated via gut GLU receptors functionally linked to afferent branches of the vagus nerve in the gut, or the afferent sensory nerves in the oral cavity.

Pay special attention to those red letters. Looking for this study, I sorted through a someshort term studies in humans. One bowl of soup containing lots of msg, followed by a meal, failing to suppress appetite. That doesn't matter. Another important thing to note; the rats drank msg-water or msg-free water at will; the rat's natural appetites were in charge. MSG mixed into chow would be an entirely different experiment.

Of course, I'm not dismissing possible consequences of individual MSG sensitivities, I really don't know enough about that stuff to even comment.

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Okay. Leptin and fat accumulation.
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/285/3/E521
To test whether fatty acids play a messenger role between stimulation of lipolysis by norepinephrine and inhibition of leptin secretion, adipocytes were incubated with insulin (10 nM) in the presence of norepinephrine (1 µM) or palmitic acid (1 mM; Fig. 1). Because albumin strongly binds extracellular fatty acids (4), experiments were carried out at low (0.1%) and high (4%) albumin concentrations. Palmitic acid (1 mM) mimicked the inhibitory effects of norepinephrine (1 µM) on leptin secretion at low but not at high albumin concentrations (Fig. 1). This indicates that albumin, at high concentrations, effectively binds extracellular fatty acids and consequently inhibits their effects on leptin secretion. Therefore, subsequent experiments were carried out at low albumin concentrations. Concentration-response curves carried out in the presence of 0.1% albumin revealed that palmitic acid inhibited insulin (10 nM)-stimulated leptin secretion between 0.1 and 1 mM without significantly affecting basal values (Fig. 2). In fact, the palmitic acid effect critically depended on the ratio of the molar concentrations of palmitic acid over albumin with an IC50 of 4.5 (Fig. 3). This is consistent with the observation that one molecule of albumin has several low- and high-affinity binding sites for long-chain fatty acids

The fact that concentrations of albumin similar to those found in plasma (4%) inhibit the effects of palmitic acid (1 mM) indicates that circulating fatty acids (the concentration of which varies at the millimolar level) have little influence on leptin secretion, at least directly (Figs. 1 and 3). This is supported by several in vivo studies in humans, which failed to demonstrate any inhibitory effects of fatty acids on plasma leptin concentrations (35, 37). It is more likely that an intracellular increase in fatty acids, generated in consequence of activated lipolysis, causes the inhibition of leptin secretion

When the fat cell is awash in free fatty acids, particularly palmitic acid, but not in albumin, leptin secretion is suppressed. When would lipolysis be high? I'd assume that lipolysis is high inside the fat cell at the same times that it's high in other parts of the body, like the liver. When fat is being used for energy. When is fat being used for energy?
1) when carbs are low
2) when all the tools necessary to the efficient use of fat for energy are present.
Glutamine decreases the amount of glucose carbon directed to Krebs cycle. That
is connected to increased UCP-2 expression which is also related to insulin
resistance.


Here's an interesting thing;

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/289/1/E166

Amino acids are catabolized at the glycolysis and tricarboxylic acid cycle levels (Table 1). Interestingly, they exhibited the following four different types of effect on leptin secretion: 1) amino acids that stimulated poorly or did not stimulate leptin secretion (L-glycine, L-alanine, L-histidine, L-arginine and L-glutamine; Figs. 3 and 6), 2) an amino acid that increased leptin secretion only in the presence of glucose (L-leucine; Fig. 4), 3) an amino acid that mimicked and potentiated glucose action (L-aspartate, L-valine, L-methionine, and L-phenylalanine; Figs. 4 and 5), and 4) an amino acid that stimulatedleptin secretion in the absence of glucose or insulin (L-glutamate]; Fig. 4). Each of these is discussed below

Glutamic acid was special in this study in that it stimulated leptin secretion in the absence of glucose or insulin. Hunger for protein increases after fat depletion in leptin-treated Sprague-Dawley rats. Glutamic acid is the one protein we have specific taste-receptors for, the taste "umami."
Another interesting line in that study;
First, regarding the amino acids that did not show any or showed only small effects on leptin secretion, one hypothesis is that white adipocytes metabolize these amino acids poorly. For example, glutamine is known to be released rather than being oxidized in white adipose tissue.

What, the same adipose tissue that's famous for releasing leptin when glutamic acid is present, even in a low-insulin, low-glucose state? Could leptin help fat cells synthesize glutamine from glutamic acid?
Maybe.
http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v23/n11/abs/0801095a.html

However, in the presence of leptin, the production of glucose from glycerol (2 mM), L-lactate (2 mM). L-alanine (5 mM) and L-glutamine (5 mM) by the isolated hepatocytes was significantly reduced (30%, 30%, 23% and 25%, respectively).

Well, it looks like I was in the ballpark, anyways. The reduction of glucose production from L-glutamine would at least increase local glutamine levels. So glutamic acid increases leptin production, and leptin decreases attrition of glutamine to glucose synthesis.

Thursday, May 14, 2009

Free the fatty acids!








This is a four days per dietary treatment study. Obese and non-obese subjects were fed glucose and de novo lipogenesis, oxidation and glycogen synthesis were somehow tracked, don't ask how.




The obese subjects made less fat from glucose than the lean ones did. Not talking just triglyceride synthesis here, we're talking full-fledged synthesis of actual fatty acids from acetyl-coa produced from glucose.




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This, nonetheless, supports the hypothesis that the increase in fat mass that occurs during the dynamic phase of obesity is essentially secondary to deposition of exogenous, dietary fats.


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Notice the glycogen synthesis is higher in the overweight subjects both in the isocaloric feeding period and in the overfeeding period. Glycogen can be broken down into glucose; which can be made into glycerol-3-phosphate; which can be incorporated with free fatty acids into triglycerides; which can be stored. Anything that keeps glucose in the system has the potential to promote the storage of fat.

Tuesday, April 28, 2009

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Like-Humand-Drunken-Bats-Crave-for-Sugars-When-They-Hangover-50921.shtml

Fructose helps bats metabolize alcohol.



Moreover, when the ethanol level in food rose, the fruit bats preferred food
rich in fructose over glucose-rich aliments. Surprisingly, the fruit bats chose
food rich in sucrose (formed by a molecule of fructose and one of glucose) above
either of the other two sugars. Even if just the fructose decreased alcohol
toxicity for Egyptian fruit bats, they perceived both fructose and sucrose as
good. "We think that this observation may be due to a matter of taste or
flavor", explained Sanchez. "The perception of sweetness versus bitterness may
vary according the type of sugar and the amount of ethanol consumed. The
combination of sucrose and ethanol may just have tasted better than either
ethanol and fructose, or ethanol and glucose".

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I think I've got this one covered. Fruit bats look for dense calorie sources. Bats are high energy creatures, with all that flying; calories need to be dense. Fructose helps with alcohol; so it makes sense they prefer it to glucose. Glucose plus fructose means faster uptake of dietary sugar vs glucose or fructose alone. Sucrose vs fructose intake doesn't actually slow down the rate at which fructose hits the liver much, so the need for calories trumps the need for fructose to handle the alcohol in the diet.


Sunday, March 8, 2009

vitamin d precursor

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/129/4/903



Cats may need the vitamin d precursor 7-dehydrocholesterol in the diet in order to produce enough vitamin d. The kittens in the study certainly do.

http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1290/1071-2690%282000%29036%3C0201%3AAHSEMT%3E2.0.CO%3B2



the second study mentions concentrations of 7-dehydrocholesterol in human skin.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/x10l60x7t43g8446/



This third covers a cholesterol lowering drug that increases synthesis of vitamin d by reducing the conversion of 7-dehydrocholesterol into cholesterol.



A few questions come to mind.



1) Are there cholesterol lowering drugs that lower synthesis of vitamin d, because their action comes earlier in the chain of events that leads to 7-dehydrocholesterol and then cholesterol?



2) According to the first study, rodents such as mice and rats have much larger concentrations of 7-dehydrocholesterol than animals like pigs and sheep, the theory being that it's a prerequisite of the feline diet. I wonder if smaller animals in general have larger amounts of this stuff, or just rodents? Mice and rats are kind of adolescent all of their lives; after a certain age, people stop growing longer and only grow wider, whether in muscle, bone or fat. People aren't cats, but is it possible that it's also a conditional prerequisite of our diet? Further to this question, it's well known that diet can have a wide range of effects on cholesterol synthesis in humans. Can this have an affect on vitamin d synthesis?



Some points; Dr Davis of Heartscan Blog relates that his patients often have a large increase of large HDL particles (the good ones) when they optimize their serum vitamin d. Also, but I haven't looked into this too deeply, I've read reports that people have lower levels of cholesterol in the summer and higher in the winter. Also something about more heart attacks in the winter than the summer.



As people age, they produce less of their own vitamin d. Dr Davis has speculated, very carefully, much more carefully than a naive hack like myself would tend to, that vitamin d might extend lifespan.

http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/benefits_cholest.html

That's the article "The benefits of high cholesterol" by Uffe Ravnskof.

First couple paragraphs;

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People with high cholesterol live the longest. This statement seems so incredible that it takes a long time to clear one´s brainwashed mind to fully understand its importance. Yet the fact that people with high cholesterol live the longest emerges clearly from many scientific papers. Consider the finding of Dr. Harlan Krumholz of the Department of Cardiovascular Medicine at Yale University, who reported in 1994 that old people with low cholesterol died twice as often from a heart attack as did old people with a high cholesterol.1 Supporters of the cholesterol campaign consistently ignore his observation, or consider it as a rare exception, produced by chance among a huge number of studies finding the opposite.
But it is not an exception; there are now a large number of findings that contradict the lipid hypothesis. To be more specific, most studies of old people have shown that high cholesterol is not a risk factor for coronary heart disease. This was the result of my search in the Medline database for studies addressing that question.2 Eleven studies of old people came up with that result, and a further seven studies found that high cholesterol did not predict all-cause mortality either.
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I don't think it puts me too much further out on a limb than usual to point out that high cholesterol production in the elderly might coincide with high production of 7-dehydrocholesterol and thus high ability to produce their own vitamin d? Vitamin d production in centenarians isn't particularly high, but how high is it in people who died in their seventies or eighties, twenty or thirty years ago?

Going back to the mouse/rat thing. I don't think mice or rats have ever been a major part of the human diet. But some other creatures, I'm thinking shrimp, krill, smaller shellfish, are high in cholesterol, and also share the trait of growing not only wider but also longer for pretty much their whole lifespans.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=FvH7ySek6yAC&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=7+dehydrocholesterol+shrimp&source=bl&ots=4PuKJXGhQZ&sig=eeAM0tnLAYSltQGEQh3rlQCc88w&hl=en&ei=VvzESZieE9TxnQfVnJjMDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA5,M1


"Vitamin D Analogs in Cancer Prevention and Therapy" By Jörg Reichrath, Michael Friedrich, Wolfgang Tilgen

Yup. lots of 7-dehydrocholesterol in brine shrimp, anyways. Smaller the better?


Lie around on the beach eating shrimp? Sounds like a worthy experiment.

That's enough blathering for now.